A Little Latitude

Google released Latitude last night – essentially a buddy-finder overlaid on Google Maps and linked to your mobile phone.

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The idea is you sign up, invite your pals to track you and they can follow your movements on their mobiles or on PC as broadcast by your mobile – or to be more precise, your Smartphone.

This idea has been a long time coming – I remember working on something similar back in 2000, although this is clearly much slicker using today’s technology and Loopt have had a product in play for 3 years or more. Further back than that, Google also bought the now defunct Dodgeball and proceeded to do nothing at all with it before finally shutting it down.

As you’d expect from the mighty Goog, it’s a well executed application, though it doesn’t really push the envelope of innovation. What it does do though is circumvent the need to use the operators’ location feeds, which gives them a massive advantage in ability to scale over services that rely on operators, like Loopt. Obviously, this needs to be balanced by the fact it only works with Smartphones – but this is the fastest growing sector after all and certainly Android and iPhone owners tend to be power users of their devices, boding well for this venture.

Having said that, I don’t know if it’s my age, my personality or that I’ve got secrets I’m unwilling to go public with (if so, they’re secrets to me too), but I really don’t like this kind of application. I’m happy to share my general location (like City, as provided by TripIt or Dopplr), but I don’t want all and sundry to see when I pop to the shops or collect my kids from school.

I think that, even more than Facebook et al, it opens up new questions of etiquette. If I give you permission to be my friend on Facebook, I’ve agreed to allow you a certain insight into my life. But what information I choose to share is an active decision and is therefore controlled by me. I can decide whether to put up those pictures of me misbehaving at that party, or not.

However, with buddy-tracking, it’s passive and not controlled or edited in any way. There may be times when I don’t want to be tracked, for perfectly innocent reasons – such as popping out to buy my wife flowers. It’s not going to be much of a surprise if she sees where I am. OK, perhaps that level of granularity isn’t there today, but I’m guessing it will in due course.

Obviously, the counter argument is that you can always turn off tracking – but that’s going to look suspicious, no? And how do I explain to one friend that I won’t allow them to track me, when I do give permission to another mutual friend? And then there’s the whole de-friending thing a la Facebook.

Of course, I’m sure many will flock to this service and love it and if you’re under 25, privacy is probably a rather old-fashioned, odd concept anyway, like paying for music or faxing stuff.

But if you do invite me, I’m not accepting I’m afraid, whoever you might be, curmudgeonly or paranoid as it might seem. It’s nothing personal, it’s just not for me. Well, for the moment anyway…

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  • KTG
    I think it's going to be one of those things that people hesitate with that slowly becomes main stream. You bring up a lot of good points like the methodology of simply "turning it off" is not so simple when interacting with individuals who can ask questions. Plus I already feel "tracked", cameras on the expressway, at red lights, my car's GPS knows where I am and can shut off my car/lock the doors, everything one does online can be tracked, etc. I'll definitely consult justaskgemalto.com for security issues before I jump on the bandwagon if I decide to.
  • Google's entrance into the "friend finder" or location-based mobile social software market is a boon for the established players, as Google will increase mass-market awareness of these services, address privacy issues with the media and deliver on the promise of location-based mobile advertising through AdWords, to justify their investment.

    These are all good things.

    Ronan for Locle (www.locle.com)
  • Granted, Google's Latitude isn't for everyone. Much has already been reported from the media about not wanting to be tracked. But these reports come from a demographic over 30 years of age. This may not be their target market.

    This will be a fun to have add-on for our youth. Put yourself back in high school or college. You never really cared if people knew where you were...in fact, you wanted to be found if something better was going on.

    In addition, parents will most likely embrace this to follow their children's whereabouts. Now the teenagers won't like this, but the parents will. Now we all know in advance what the teenagers will do to avoid this "tracking"...simply leave the phone in the car or give it to a friend to take somewhere else when they don't want their parents to track them. But for the most part, they will have it on their person...

    For me, no thanks. However, for others, it is just another cool product that people will play around with and have fun with...
  • Russell Buckley
    David - thanks for the comment.

    Certainly the operators could break it (either inadvertently or deliberately), but Google would surely just tune into the new Cell IDs? Also Google is increasingly using wifi to get accurate feeds and this is largely outside the domain of operators too.

    Russell
  • David
    Well it might bypass the operators but any operator can break it by redefining the cell IDs. This is already likely to happen in the UK as operators move towards mast sharing.
  • I put it into iGoogle and it says "not available in your location". What's the bloody point in that, then?
  • I agree with what you're saying, Russell, I do find this slightly creepy as well. That said, Latitude does allow you to switch off the auto updates and hide your location or set it manually.
  • DMY
    even paranoid have real ennemies
  • Isn't that funny -- I've just downloaded the new Google Maps for Mobile with Latitude and I feel *exactly* the same way as you do!

    Part of it for me is that it's a Google service, and I'm always a bit hesitant to share more personal information with them. Call me paranoid too, I guess ;-)
  • DMY
    I wonder why there's no granularity in the system
    I could be OK to share an approximate position (like a radius, 1km, 5km, 10km....)
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