Comments on: Windows Mobile in the Dunk Tank http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/ Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino on mobile technology. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:31:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chinese iPhones http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123731 Chinese iPhones Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:05:34 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123731 Thanks for having such a great resource for iPhones. I\'ve been searching all over for this. http://www.iphonehub.com/iPhone/Chinese-iPhones Thanks for having such a great resource for iPhones. I\’ve been searching all over for this. http://www.iphonehub.com/iPhone/Chinese-iPhones

]]> By: Dean Bubley http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123026 Dean Bubley Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:30:53 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123026 Russell As an interesting counterpoint to our usual debate, it might interest you to know that Internet user numbers in China are now growing faster than overall Mobile users, once multiple SIM-ownership is taken into account. http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/08/internet-user-base-is-growing-faster.html Now obviously China doesn't have 3G yet, but it does have a huge push on fixed broadband infrastructure rollout, so the picture will be different in other markets. But it's an interesting pointer nevertheless - well over 90% of Chinese Internet users rely on desktops, although about 25% also use laptops &/or phones as well. Dean Russell

As an interesting counterpoint to our usual debate, it might interest you to know that Internet user numbers in China are now growing faster than overall Mobile users, once multiple SIM-ownership is taken into account.

http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/08/internet-user-base-is-growing-faster.html

Now obviously China doesn’t have 3G yet, but it does have a huge push on fixed broadband infrastructure rollout, so the picture will be different in other markets. But it’s an interesting pointer nevertheless – well over 90% of Chinese Internet users rely on desktops, although about 25% also use laptops &/or phones as well.

Dean

]]> By: jMac http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123022 jMac Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:48:36 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123022 Great article. Blogged it here: http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=1280 I cant wait to see whether MS come up with a brave new direction in mobile...I wonder whether the biggest companies even view mobile as the world's predominant communication device that it is, in contrast to simply another thing that accesses the internet... Good stuff Russ - as ever. Great article. Blogged it here: http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=1280

I cant wait to see whether MS come up with a brave new direction in mobile…I wonder whether the biggest companies even view mobile as the world’s predominant communication device that it is, in contrast to simply another thing that accesses the internet…

Good stuff Russ – as ever.

]]> By: Windows Mobile in the Dunk Tank | Jonathan MacDonald.com http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123021 Windows Mobile in the Dunk Tank | Jonathan MacDonald.com Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:45:38 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123021 [...] Russell Buckley, a truly top geezer, head of the MMA and MD of Admob, blogged an interesting piece about Microsoft’s mobile strategy. Check it out here. [...] [...] Russell Buckley, a truly top geezer, head of the MMA and MD of Admob, blogged an interesting piece about Microsoft’s mobile strategy. Check it out here. [...]

]]> By: Russell Buckley http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123013 Russell Buckley Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:13:36 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123013 Great idea, Scott. Having said that, if I had to make a bet, I'd say that the eeePC will go the way of the PDA and get converged into mobile. But that's not a definite and they certainly should have some runners in that race. Russell Great idea, Scott.

Having said that, if I had to make a bet, I’d say that the eeePC will go the way of the PDA and get converged into mobile. But that’s not a definite and they certainly should have some runners in that race.

Russell

]]> By: Scott http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123012 Scott Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:08:34 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123012 There is a possible meeting of the ways between Russell and Dean in the growing eeePC market. Microsoft has the ability to shift the mobile battleplace to somewhere where it has dominant OS share and already knows one major competitor will not be participating (Nokia has stated its lack of interest). Microsoft needs a game changer at this point - I think it has already lost in trying to play by traditional mobile rules - too powerful and unpopular to win the support of the operators and not powerful enough to force its own agenda (ref. Android). It has nothing to lose - why not throw its weight behind eeePC's and redefine people's idea of what a smartphone is. There is a possible meeting of the ways between Russell and Dean in the growing eeePC market. Microsoft has the ability to shift the mobile battleplace to somewhere where it has dominant OS share and already knows one major competitor will not be participating (Nokia has stated its lack of interest). Microsoft needs a game changer at this point – I think it has already lost in trying to play by traditional mobile rules – too powerful and unpopular to win the support of the operators and not powerful enough to force its own agenda (ref. Android). It has nothing to lose – why not throw its weight behind eeePC’s and redefine people’s idea of what a smartphone is.

]]> By: Russell Buckley http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123006 Russell Buckley Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:07:53 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123006 Marc - fair enough, they probably can fight more than one battle. But to paraphrase Mr Ballmer, the search thing is tactical............ while the mobile issue is strategic. So that's where I'd be investing senior management time. George - thanks for the info. Cheers Russell Marc – fair enough, they probably can fight more than one battle. But to paraphrase Mr Ballmer, the search thing is tactical………… while the mobile issue is strategic.

So that’s where I’d be investing senior management time.

George – thanks for the info.

Cheers

Russell

]]> By: George http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123003 George Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:34:32 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123003 Hi Russ, Windows Mobile is actually still pretty popular among the greater Chinese regions (mainland, Hong Kong, and Taiwan) and that's the areas where the AdMob Metrics does not cover fully mainly due to language issues. The better way to find out how Windows Mobile is doing is probably check HTC's units of shipment since they are the largest WM OEM out there. That is not to say Windows Mobile is doing just fine though. There are plenty of other issues with Windows Mobile. Hi Russ,

Windows Mobile is actually still pretty popular among the greater Chinese regions (mainland, Hong Kong, and Taiwan) and that’s the areas where the AdMob Metrics does not cover fully mainly due to language issues.

The better way to find out how Windows Mobile is doing is probably check HTC’s units of shipment since they are the largest WM OEM out there.

That is not to say Windows Mobile is doing just fine though. There are plenty of other issues with Windows Mobile.

]]> By: Marc http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123002 Marc Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:00:01 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123002 Russell I think that I agree with most of what you are saying. What is really interesting in this technology cycle, when compared to the rise of desktop OS, is the group collaboration focusing its combined efforts on an improved user experience. I hear more buzz about iPhone, Symbian and Android than WM. Consumers will gravitate towards the devices that can offer the best user experience. Where we slightly depart in agreement is in your assertion that MS should be less obsessed about catching up with Google in search. Google has overtaken MS to become the most trusted brand on both sides of the pond. This must be a real thorn to the Redmond mob. MS has the strength to fight more than one battle, and so they should! This coming from a self-confessed disciple of Jobs!! Catch up soon marc Russell

I think that I agree with most of what you are saying.

What is really interesting in this technology cycle, when compared to the rise of desktop OS, is the group collaboration focusing its combined efforts on an improved user experience. I hear more buzz about iPhone, Symbian and Android than WM. Consumers will gravitate towards the devices that can offer the best user experience.

Where we slightly depart in agreement is in your assertion that MS should be less obsessed about catching up with Google in search. Google has overtaken MS to become the most trusted brand on both sides of the pond. This must be a real thorn to the Redmond mob.

MS has the strength to fight more than one battle, and so they should!

This coming from a self-confessed disciple of Jobs!!

Catch up soon

marc

]]> By: Windows Mobile misses 20M FY08 target | Microsoft News Tracker http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/07/31/windows-mobile-in-the-dunk-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-123001 Windows Mobile misses 20M FY08 target | Microsoft News Tracker Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:39:53 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=2787#comment-123001 [...] the Windows Mobile share, the bad news is that Apple is coming on even more strongly and that Windows Mobile phones appear to be really only strong in the USA.   Filed under Microsoft, Windows Mobile Related posts:Microsoft formally unveils [...] [...] the Windows Mobile share, the bad news is that Apple is coming on even more strongly and that Windows Mobile phones appear to be really only strong in the USA.   Filed under Microsoft, Windows Mobile Related posts:Microsoft formally unveils [...]

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