Today’s Lesson In Social Media: Sometimes, It’s Better To Keep Your Trap Shut

Updated: There’s a mess of inline updates to this story, provided by one Manny Ramon in the comments. Mr. Ramon says he was “SEOColumbus” on Twitter (though that account now looks to have been deleted), and that he provided “SEO expertise and tips” to a friend that worked on DSW.com, but otherwise has no connection to DSW. There are a lot of strange coincidences here, though Mr. Ramon says it’s just a case of mixed online identities.

1. I start following the CEO of big US online shoe retailer Zappos.com on Twitter.

2. He tweets: “Weird, just found out through a PRESS RELEASE that DSW [a bricks-and-mortar shoe retailer that just happens to have launched an online store)] filed a lawsuit against Zappos. Maybe phone call, letter, or email more productive??” followed later by “Just checked with Zappos legal team and haven’t received any communication (phone call, letter, email) from DSW, just press release. Weird.” (Here’s the release about the suit.),

3. I tweet that it sounds like marketing-via-lawsuit, and later that I imagine it has to do with third-party sites not owned or controlled by Zappos, but are in its affiliates program.

4. I get a pro-DSW Twitter reply from one “SEOColumbus”. I check out his Twitter page and there are more of the same, as well as others talking up DSW’s newly launched site and talking smack about Zappos.

5. My shill radar starts going off, so I Google “SEOColumbus” and “DSW”. I find a LinkedIn profile for a guy, listing one of his current jobs as “Manager – E-Commerce Operations at DSW”. (Update: One Manny Ramon, an SEO Columbus employee, stops by in the comments below to clarify things. He says that he is “SEOColumbus” on Twitter, and that the person in the LinkedIn profile is somebody else unrelated to this episode.)

6. This starts bouncing around Zappos’ well-developed community of Twitter users. SEOColumbus says he used to contract at DSW, but the profile is “outdated”. (Update: Again, Manny Ramon/SEOColumbus on Twitter says in the comments that the LinkedIn profile belongs to somebody else unrelated to this episode, and that he mistakenly thought the link was to his own LinkedIn profile.)

7. LinkedIn profile disappears. Thanks to the magic of Google’s cache (hat tip to The Stalwart) and screenshots), you can still see it. (Update: Again, Manny Ramon/SEOColumbus on Twitter says in the comments that the LinkedIn profile belongs to somebody else unrelated to this episode.)

8. Another Zappos community member passes along a blog post from March (hat tip Julie), from the person, which references “the new gig at DSW where you will soon be able to buy shoes online”. (Update: Just another reminder that Manny Ramon says this blog — the link to which I removed — belongs to this other person.)

9. Zappos, which has done an awesome job of building its business through social media, smart marketing, and great customer service, looks like they’re getting attacked — on Twitter and with a lawsuit-cum-marketing vehicle — by a rival who was terribly late to the online game. This person on Twitter says he doesn’t work for DSW any more, but that’s not really relevant. By not disclosing his connection to the company (previous or current), DSW looks bad. Zappos has cultivated a strong online community of passionate customers; now they’re not just pro-Zappos, they’re anti-DSW. How does that help DSW’s business? Oh yeah, it doesn’t.

So the moral of the story: people expect and demand transparency and truthfulness in social media. If you can’t give it to them, you’re better off just staying out of the conversation.

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  • Mr. Cool
    I wouldn't threaten law suits in the current situation.
  • Manny, is this wrong: “Contracted there a while ago, but no more." You also said this: "I offered SEO expertise and tips to the person you described above, who is involved in this." It seems that helping a buddy out and contracting with DSW are completely different.

    And where is your linkedin profile?
  • Manny Ramon
    Yep. I thought you had my info. It didn't occur to me that you grabbed the wrong one.
  • Carlo Longino
    So just to clarify: you are "SEOColumbus" on Twitter, and an SEOColumbus employee, but you are not the person in the LinkedIn profile, who is a DSW employee and founder/president of SEOColumbus? Why didn't you say that when the LinkedIn profile first came up on Twitter, instead of just saying it was outdated?
  • That is my connection. I offered SEO expertise and tips to the person you described above, who is involved in this. Through that, I like the company because of that connection but have no personal interest in it other than seeing my friends succeed. He took down his linked-in profile after I told him what was going on, but you posted wrong info on the wrong dude.
  • Carlo Longino
    Hi Manny, thanks for stopping by. So when you said on Twitter "Contracted there a while ago, but no more. Outdated linkedin, nice try though." You actually meant that wasn't your profile at all?

    If you'd like to explain the situation clearly, including your personal link to DSW as well as your company's, I'd be happy to update the post.
  • Unfortunately, your detective work forgot to include the possibility that SEO Columbus LLC has about 20 employees.

    You found one.

    I think it is a little hypocritical that you are writing about someone being not-so-smart, considering you didn't exactly do much research yourself. I have the SEOColumbus username on Twitter, but the owner of the company does not. I work at SEO Columbus, but not DSW. You are incorrectly, and in a somewhat libelous manner, implicating the wrong person. But speaking of lawsuits, I hope you have a good attorney as well!
  • Thanks for the hat tip :)

    Transparency is what makes Zappos social media outreach so important.

    They came into the eCommerce world a million years too late, and then SEOColumbus does this. WTG guys! DSW has just shot themselves in the foot.

    Disclaimer: I am not a Zappos employee.
  • bt
    Nice work in tracking that! I think it is fair to say that DSW isn't the smartest company ever.. How are you supposed to build a brand through negativity anyhow?
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