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	<title>Comments on: How Mobile Operators Could Beat YouTube</title>
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	<description>Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino on mobile technology.</description>
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		<title>By: KOTa</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/25/how-mobile-operators-could-beat-youtube/#comment-99642</link>
		<dc:creator>KOTa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check what are we already did in this direction
www.peerboxmobile.com

and also there will be new more functional version out in about a week or less.</description>
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<a href="http://www.peerboxmobile.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.peerboxmobile.com</a></p>
<p>and also there will be new more functional version out in about a week or less.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Beattie</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/25/how-mobile-operators-could-beat-youtube/#comment-99588</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carriers need to reassess the situation and learn that exclusive content deals fragmnet already fragmented markets. The day that the carriers realise that they are not media companies and they should move to a Mobile ISP model when they provide access and bandwidth and that is all. Media companies should create media and carriers shold provide access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carriers need to reassess the situation and learn that exclusive content deals fragmnet already fragmented markets. The day that the carriers realise that they are not media companies and they should move to a Mobile ISP model when they provide access and bandwidth and that is all. Media companies should create media and carriers shold provide access.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Brookler</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/25/how-mobile-operators-could-beat-youtube/#comment-99571</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Brookler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that operators have an opportunity similar to the SeeMeTV solution, the problem will be cross carrier - ie, videos won't be available from one operator to the next.  If I upload the best video ever, only my friends/family on my carrier will be able to see it.  

We have a solution in place right now that works across carriers.  You can upload a video from your phone or from the web and we'll transcode it and make it available on both mobiles and the web.  We also allow users to upload photos, audio and make text posts.

Our solution is browser based and works great on most phones.  We allow users to either stream the video or download and play it.  We have temporarily removed these links on Cingular phones, but will bring it back soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that operators have an opportunity similar to the SeeMeTV solution, the problem will be cross carrier - ie, videos won&#8217;t be available from one operator to the next.  If I upload the best video ever, only my friends/family on my carrier will be able to see it.  </p>
<p>We have a solution in place right now that works across carriers.  You can upload a video from your phone or from the web and we&#8217;ll transcode it and make it available on both mobiles and the web.  We also allow users to upload photos, audio and make text posts.</p>
<p>Our solution is browser based and works great on most phones.  We allow users to either stream the video or download and play it.  We have temporarily removed these links on Cingular phones, but will bring it back soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sabat</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/25/how-mobile-operators-could-beat-youtube/#comment-99559</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sabat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In theory it sounds like this video platform across the major carriers could work, but in reality I don't think that competitors will work together.  There needs to be an outsider (probably a company with less than 20 people) to create the need and provide the solution at the same time.

Especially in America, service providers are at each others throughts and I have a feeling that there are too many feelings being hurt to work together.  Does anyone know of a company in America that is aiming to start the mobile youtube killer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory it sounds like this video platform across the major carriers could work, but in reality I don&#8217;t think that competitors will work together.  There needs to be an outsider (probably a company with less than 20 people) to create the need and provide the solution at the same time.</p>
<p>Especially in America, service providers are at each others throughts and I have a feeling that there are too many feelings being hurt to work together.  Does anyone know of a company in America that is aiming to start the mobile youtube killer?</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo Longino</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/25/how-mobile-operators-could-beat-youtube/#comment-99547</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlo Longino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I'm not sure I understand your point, apart from setting a rather arbitrary limit as to who can succeed in social apps and services (though 3's experiences with SeeMeTV and Kink Kommunity would be exceptions to what you say, and so would Orkut). YouTube, the clear market leader, is actively ignoring mobile users, creating an opportunity for services like SeeMeTV and Vodafone's new service. I'm merely suggesting they have a good chance to increase their success by banding together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I&#8217;m not sure I understand your point, apart from setting a rather arbitrary limit as to who can succeed in social apps and services (though 3&#8217;s experiences with SeeMeTV and Kink Kommunity would be exceptions to what you say, and so would Orkut). YouTube, the clear market leader, is actively ignoring mobile users, creating an opportunity for services like SeeMeTV and Vodafone&#8217;s new service. I&#8217;m merely suggesting they have a good chance to increase their success by banding together.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendong Li</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/25/how-mobile-operators-could-beat-youtube/#comment-99545</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendong Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In US, VH1 launched "Mobile Junk 20" service on Sprint network last December.

http://www.vh1.com/mobile/games/MJ20/MJ20_howto.jhtml
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061218/nym096.html?.v=49

Users can submit images/videos from mobile phone or PC, then view images/streaming videos on their handsets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In US, VH1 launched &#8220;Mobile Junk 20&#8243; service on Sprint network last December.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vh1.com/mobile/games/MJ20/MJ20_howto.jhtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.vh1.com/mobile/games/MJ20/MJ20_howto.jhtml</a><br />
<a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061218/nym096.html?.v=49" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061218/nym096.html?.v=49</a></p>
<p>Users can submit images/videos from mobile phone or PC, then view images/streaming videos on their handsets.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rafer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlo, 

Getting users to adopt social software doesn't work as you describe it. Carriers can build the software to offer youtube clones or improvements all they like, but what gets users to adopt social applications is not "designable" in the big-company product sense. You'll notice that not even one successful social site has been started by a company of more than 50 (and maybe even 20) people. Having done it, I can't even tell you how it works. I could (and expect to) try to do it again and think I've got a decent shot at it, but it's not a process that I could "plan" as larger companies require.

You'll also notice that all the successful ones turn a different social urge into software than any that came before them. None of the copycats or close derivatives have made it. 

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlo, </p>
<p>Getting users to adopt social software doesn&#8217;t work as you describe it. Carriers can build the software to offer youtube clones or improvements all they like, but what gets users to adopt social applications is not &#8220;designable&#8221; in the big-company product sense. You&#8217;ll notice that not even one successful social site has been started by a company of more than 50 (and maybe even 20) people. Having done it, I can&#8217;t even tell you how it works. I could (and expect to) try to do it again and think I&#8217;ve got a decent shot at it, but it&#8217;s not a process that I could &#8220;plan&#8221; as larger companies require.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll also notice that all the successful ones turn a different social urge into software than any that came before them. None of the copycats or close derivatives have made it. </p>
<p>Scott</p>
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