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	<title>Comments on: Orb Delivers the Real YouTube on Mobile</title>
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		<title>By: ian at orb</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/12/05/orb-delivers-the-real-youtube-on-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-69389</link>
		<dc:creator>ian at orb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey rico

short answer is that the way orb works is, if you can play content on your PC, you can stream that content from your PC to whatever web-enabled device you&#039;re on AWAY from your PC when you want to enjoy that some content, with the orb software *on your own PC* transcoding the content on the fly into the right file format, bitrate, and screen rez for your accessing device. there&#039;s no alternate/secondary copy of the file being stored anywhere. this isn&#039;t a rival broadcast solution - it&#039;s mycasting, from you to yourself.

and hey bdogg - i was actually unsurprised, if disappointed as a user and for the space itself, at how youtube&#039;s verizon deal was yet another walled-garden broadcast attempt on mobile (an outmoded model that the EU carriers like our partners vodafone, 3, and orange have already abandoned). clever of youtube to get verizon to foot the bill (if that&#039;s what&#039;s happening) for the production and programming costs of getting some of youtube onto verizon. OUR solution, of course, is very skype-like in that the *user&#039;s own infrastructure* does the production work for that specific user - no add&#039;l cost to the content provider OR the carrier. so from our standpoint, verizon and all the other carriers really ought to follow the EU carriers&#039; lead and just have folks download Orb onto their PCs to do the work FOR them!

marc - just about the only content you can&#039;t mycast to yourself through Orb out of the box is iTunes *purchased* content because Apple&#039;s so-called FairPlay DRM doesn&#039;t have a licensing program like The Borg does for WMDRM (i have to say that Msft is actually providing a platform for an ecosystem with their DRM, whereas Apple...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey rico</p>
<p>short answer is that the way orb works is, if you can play content on your PC, you can stream that content from your PC to whatever web-enabled device you&#8217;re on AWAY from your PC when you want to enjoy that some content, with the orb software *on your own PC* transcoding the content on the fly into the right file format, bitrate, and screen rez for your accessing device. there&#8217;s no alternate/secondary copy of the file being stored anywhere. this isn&#8217;t a rival broadcast solution &#8211; it&#8217;s mycasting, from you to yourself.</p>
<p>and hey bdogg &#8211; i was actually unsurprised, if disappointed as a user and for the space itself, at how youtube&#8217;s verizon deal was yet another walled-garden broadcast attempt on mobile (an outmoded model that the EU carriers like our partners vodafone, 3, and orange have already abandoned). clever of youtube to get verizon to foot the bill (if that&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening) for the production and programming costs of getting some of youtube onto verizon. OUR solution, of course, is very skype-like in that the *user&#8217;s own infrastructure* does the production work for that specific user &#8211; no add&#8217;l cost to the content provider OR the carrier. so from our standpoint, verizon and all the other carriers really ought to follow the EU carriers&#8217; lead and just have folks download Orb onto their PCs to do the work FOR them!</p>
<p>marc &#8211; just about the only content you can&#8217;t mycast to yourself through Orb out of the box is iTunes *purchased* content because Apple&#8217;s so-called FairPlay DRM doesn&#8217;t have a licensing program like The Borg does for WMDRM (i have to say that Msft is actually providing a platform for an ecosystem with their DRM, whereas Apple&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/12/05/orb-delivers-the-real-youtube-on-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-69335</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s to say that YouTube won&#039;t force Orb to shut down, to protect their lucrative agreement with Verizon? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesmartpda.com/50226711/tinytubenet_mobile_youtube.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I featured Tinytube.net&lt;/a&gt;, which offered mobile YouTube, a few weeks ago. &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.tinytube.net/viewtopic.php?t=4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Its programmer was eventually asked to shut the site down&lt;/a&gt; (at least temporarily) for apparent Terms of Service violations. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s to say that YouTube won&#8217;t force Orb to shut down, to protect their lucrative agreement with Verizon? <a href="http://www.thesmartpda.com/50226711/tinytubenet_mobile_youtube.php" rel="nofollow">I featured Tinytube.net</a>, which offered mobile YouTube, a few weeks ago. <a href="http://forum.tinytube.net/viewtopic.php?t=4" rel="nofollow">Its programmer was eventually asked to shut the site down</a> (at least temporarily) for apparent Terms of Service violations. <img src='http://mobhappy.com/blog1/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bdogg64</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/12/05/orb-delivers-the-real-youtube-on-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-69028</link>
		<dc:creator>bdogg64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad youtube went the specific carrier. I hoped they would have opened it up for everyone, just as they did with the website, but obviously they are going after the bucks even more now. Until then I guess we will depend on other websites to offer up youtube videos for mobile phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad youtube went the specific carrier. I hoped they would have opened it up for everyone, just as they did with the website, but obviously they are going after the bucks even more now. Until then I guess we will depend on other websites to offer up youtube videos for mobile phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/12/05/orb-delivers-the-real-youtube-on-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-65090</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree Russel. We are in the final days of walled gardens and spoon-fed, sanitized content. Your article has persuaded my to sign up to 3&#039;s new price-plan. I just wish they had a quad-band handset with a full keyboard (but I&#039;m probably being fussy).

I heard that Orb isn&#039;t compatible with iTunes though, so its service is a bit limiting. Do you think Orb will start licensing their service to the telcos for their music stores?

Hope to catch up soon. All the best,
marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree Russel. We are in the final days of walled gardens and spoon-fed, sanitized content. Your article has persuaded my to sign up to 3&#8217;s new price-plan. I just wish they had a quad-band handset with a full keyboard (but I&#8217;m probably being fussy).</p>
<p>I heard that Orb isn&#8217;t compatible with iTunes though, so its service is a bit limiting. Do you think Orb will start licensing their service to the telcos for their music stores?</p>
<p>Hope to catch up soon. All the best,<br />
marc</p>
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