Last week, we wrote about a tiff over PR practices between bloggers Russell Beattie and Steve Rubel, who represent different ends of the argument.
Russell takes the line "all PR people are morons" and wants to be left
alone by the whole industry. Steve, a PR man himself and a Blog
Relations expert to boot, welcomes all approaches apparently, as he likes
to sift through everything to find the odd nugget.
With this range of opinion, some PR people
are recommending that the whole blogging scene is avoided altogether,
which seems a shame for both sides, potentially. If PR people can feed
us stories our readers might find interesting, that would be a good
thing for everyone, surely?
So we’ve come up with a solution, that we hope will be adopted by all
our blogging friends and noted by the PR industry as a whole.
We’ve designed a choice of three simple logos for bloggers to display
on their blogs, which spell out, at a glance, what they’d like PR
people to do:
is for bloggers who, like Russell Beattie, want to be left alone by the
entire industry. Don’t approach these people under any circumstances.
You’ll only have yourself to blame if they flame you or arrange to
publicly saut√© you or your client’s products.
Do NOT approach!
is for bloggers to display if they don’t care who approaches them with
what. But let’s be a little reasonable, you PR people. Just because
they say they’re happy to be approached, doesn’t mean that you can’t
try to be targeted in your pitches. Someone writing about technology,
for instance, isn’t going to be interested in cat food or knitting. So
for the sake of your own credibility, try to play the game, OK?
is the middle ground, which will probably be most of us, to be honest.
This will allow PR people to click on the logo to see what the
blogger’s policy towards PR pitches is, before approaching them.
MobHappy’s policy, for instance is:
With some rather large caveats, we welcome pitches from PR people or
anyone wanting to promote their website, product or service.
Our caveats are:
1. Please make sure that the information is about mobile technology, or
at a stretch, technology generally. Read the blog - is there a good chance
we might publish it?
2. If you keep sending us rubbish, we won’t read your pitches any more.
3. Keep it brief please, in the first instance. We can always ask for more info.
4. Don’t use the comments section on our blogs to blatantly promote
your or your client’s products. It REALLY pisses us off. You have been
warned.
<Policy ends>
We hope you like this approach and if you’re a blogger, please feel
free to download one of the logos for your own site.
We’d also love to
hear what everyone thinks about the idea, so leave a comment or tell us
if it makes any difference.
Carlo adds: I just want to reiterate the second part of Russell’s fist caveat: read this blog before you pitch. It wouldn’t hurt to try and build some sort of relationship with us, either via reading and commenting or privately. And also please keep in mind that if the only reason you can come up with why something is interesting is because you’re promoting it, it’s safe to say that almost without exception, we won’t be interested.





Red, Yellow, Green … A Great Idea For Bloggers And Their PR Friends/Enemies
Last week we had quite an interesting discussion about pitching bloggers.
My take was that it’s probably better at this point to steer clear of outright, traditional pitches, since it’s tough to know how they’ll be received (and because most agencie…
Red, Yellow and Green All Mean Pitch
Russell Buckley has developed a Homeland Security-style system that he is hoping bloggers will adopt to inform PR people if they are open to pitches. They have designed three simple color-coded logos for bloggers to display on their blogs, which
Blog “Pitch Policy” System
Russell Buckley came up with a novel solution to the problem of bloggers receiving unwanted PR pitches. Bloggers would display one of three logos on their sites: Green indicates a willingness to receive pitches. Red indicates no desire to hear
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Congratulations Russell on a very neat idea.
We’re exceptionally cautious in our approach to bloggers having pissed off some on the highest profile bloggers in the business in the early days.
Some bloggers are, or are becoming powerful commentators and thought leaders in their own right, so it’s not surprising that PRs are targeting them as an audience.
I haven’t yet come across a blogger that has subsequently been hired as a leader writer, but it’ll happen soon or later.
Keep their pitches where you can see them
“Outernet marketing conduit” BL Ochman called the proposal “ridiculous”. And it’s caused a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth from others in PR. Jeremy Zawodny’s proposal to create a blacklist of flacks who effectively spam bloggers has certainly rai…
Put Your Finger in the Pitch Spam Dike
Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino of Mobhappy suggest that bloggers should post some sort of advisory about their openness (and closedness?) to receiving pitches about products and services. They created three logos that could be posted on a blog to in…
New Media Relations Summit?
We’ve been watching the debate(s) raging between public relations workers, mainstream media writers, “A-list” bloggers (and those who are not), guys like Jeremy Zawodny and other guys like Russell Beattie for some time now and …
New Media Relations Summit?
We’ve been watching the debate(s) raging between public relations workers, mainstream media writers, “A-list” bloggers (and those who are not), guys like Jeremy Zawodny and other guys like Russell Beattie for some time now and …
Blog pitch icons!
A brilliant if somewhat simplistic solution to the blog pitch quandry: red means no, green means yes, yellow means read the damn policy. Maybe it will help avoid posts like this.
Quit You Whiners…
I’m tired of all the bloggers whineing about being pitched by PR people. Get the heck over it. The irony here is that the less the bloggers want to be like traditional media, the more they sound like them -
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I’ve started using it. I’m an “amber” guy.
Blogs: Four-point-fifth estate?
Recently I was involved in pitching content ideas to bloggers on behalf of a client, something we do pretty regularly here at Hass MS&L. It sometimes falls under word of mouth campaigns, sometimes an extension of traditional PR work.
In pitching, I id…
Blogs: Four-point-fifth estate?
Recently I was involved in pitching content ideas to bloggers on behalf of a client, something we do pretty regularly here at Hass MS&L. It sometimes falls under word of mouth campaigns, sometimes an extension of traditional PR work.
In pitching, I id…
Blogs: Four-point-fifth estate?
Recently I was involved in pitching content ideas to bloggers on behalf of a client, something we do pretty regularly here at Hass MS&L. It sometimes falls under word of mouth campaigns, sometimes an extension of traditional PR work.
In pitching, I id…
I think this is a great idea, since, IMHO, blogs are a legitimate source of news, opinion for the reader to stay informed and form their own opinion.
Regards,
Eric.
Good balanced approach.
I’m using a slightly different gatekeeping method: If anyone has a new service they want highlighted via my blog I’m willing to write about it, provided I can give it a personal and critical (if due) spin. I also allow myself to ignore such headsups altogether, without the submitter having the right to stalk me.
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Hi Russell,
I think this is a great idea. I think it all comes down to relationships, respect, and real news angles.
If PR pros and bloggers develop strong individual relationships, this can lead to tremendous insight into the industry with breaking news and exclusives.
I have enjoyed working with bloggers in various industries and hope that more PR pros can treat bloggers with respect and not just blast press releases with some automatic program.
Clearly a good relationship with PR pros and bloggers can lead to interesting stories and fresh content. Unfortunately, not enough PR firms and their staff understand the delicate nature of working with bloggers.
Hopefully this will improve.
-Vijay S. Chattha
VSC Consulting